can we get a Latina disney princess? thanks
[WARNING for anti-Latina stuff in all the responses, & massive white supremacist garbage from guide-me-home]
hell the fuck no
You have Dora, you don’t need anything else.
No, stop. The more you focus on racial equality, the more the racial barrier will be there. If the racial barrier is still there, racism will still be relevant in society. If you cast aside the whole focus on racism and racial equality, it will dissipate and there will be no need for forced equality because people will cease to notice.
The more you distinguish races and point out that there is a “need” for equality because people are different and are being treated differently, the more people will take notice and the race issues will prevail in our society. Ironically enough, you’re making your problem worse by trying to improve it.
what the hell, damn trolls
@guide-me-home: uh ok i know this is old and i missed this when it happened. but i happened to find this post so i’m gonna agree with everyone else calling you a racist asshat and saying that of course ignoring racism will not make it go away and of course bringing it up does not make it worse. and really all your opinions on racism are garbage from what else i read. you’re a whitesplaining, status-quo-wanking, bullying, smug, useless creep and you need to get off the internet forever.
[WARNING for above text: anti-Latina stuff in all the responses, & massive white supremacist garbage from guide-me-home]
TALKING ABOUT RACISM IS WHAT CAUSES RACISM!
No wait, actually, that’s not true….
WARNINGS: whitesplaining racism-supporting “NO, YOOOOOU!” garbage; ableist appropriation of term “color blind”
Ok so let’s have a little lesson in economics and crime rates in cities. What made it the worst place in Philadelphia was the CRIME, and for the most part, the highest amount of crime in a city happens in the lower income sectors, the two are very seldom exclusive of each other. And guess what, there were all kinds of people living in poverty there. POVERTY IS COLOR BLIND, it does not inherently affect one race more than another strictly due to the color of their skin. I’ve lived next to Camden NJ ever since I moved out of that neighborhood, which is UNFORTUNATELY riddled with poverty and crime, which is not the fault of the people living there, it is the fault of the corrupted government not serving it’s people to the fullest.
How dare you imply that I think I’m better than the people that lived in the same neighborhood as me. I was an infant, just a little girl. I remember hearing gun shots from my bed room window and our house was broken into twice. I was not better than my neighbors, I am not better and I never will be. They are people all the same, and for you to think that I have such ignorant views of the world around me is slander, since you know pretty much nothing about me. I live in a diverse neighborhood in New Brunswick, and cherish the culture that exists because of the locals. My boyfriend helped create a program to help the illegal immigrants in the area get the proper medical services and food for their children. I have a large diverse group of friends who come from various different economic and social backgrounds and I respect and love them all the same. How dare you assume that because I simply stated that I’m tired of the hate that goes on on both sides, that I’m suddenly an racist elitist. I’m not going to sit and argue that there isn’t social injustice in the United States, but it’s good to know that it isn’t just happening to peoples of a certain race or ethnic background. It’s happening to everyone. And what an ignorant point of view it is to have that suddenly people care because it’s the “white” people who are suffering now, when EVERYONE is suffering now.
And also, what guilty conscience of mine is speaking now? Because I don’t believe I’m hurting financially any more or less than any other person in the United States? That I’m not hurting more or less than another student buried in student loans or a family trying to pay back a mortgage? I worked hard throughout high school to graduate with a fucking 3.8 GPA, 11th in my class. I worked part time jobs since I was legally able to at the age of 16, and yet for all my hard work, I’m 30k in debt, for a school I dropped out of and another 30k for the schooling I’m currently enrolled in. And there are millions of people who worked just as hard or probably even HARDER that are in my place or worse. I pay my own fucking rent, bills, food, school, EVERYTHING. I’m 20 years old and have had to work for EVERYTHING I have in my life right now, and I would gladly give the US government my hard earned money if it helped people, ALL PEOPLE.
It’s people like you who spread hate in the world; you think you’re doing everyone a favor by pointing out flaws in peoples arguments, telling them they don’t care about the world they live in simply because they hold an opinion. So how about instead of posting hateful remarks which you know no doubt will be responded to, go volunteer in a soup kitchen, write letters and make phone calls to your senators and representatives asking them to stop cuts on social programs, donate money to organizations for the homeless and disenfranchised, and stop thinking that chewing me up and spitting me out (which failed horribly BTW) is really going to change the bad things happening in the world.
“POVERTY IS COLOR BLIND”
And that is the only “point” I’m gonna take time to refute as this entire rant is so willfully ignorant of reality. But continue to whine about how white people have it just as bad as everyone else! Don’t ever click those links I provided to become a more informed citizen!
you are far more racist than I am, or ever will be if this truly is your opinion. “You must be white here?” Are you for real? You are totally not for equality if this is the opinion you hold. We’re all human beings, we have the same problems, although there is a clear history of discrimination and intolerance in this country, it is our duty as human beings to put aside our differences and work to break down barriers, both racial and economic. These are issues we need to stand for as Americans and they effect all of us. Don’t tell me I can’t understand something simply based on the color of my skin.
All men are created equal…
@maaaaaaag: NO WE DO NOT ALL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS. there are some overlaps, yeah, but WHITES LIKE US ARE NOT TARGETED BY WHITE SUPREMACIST OPPRESSION. WE ARE NOT TARGETED BY RACISM — IN FACT WE BENEFIT FROM IT. and saying “NO, *YOU* ARE RACIST!!!!!” when people call you on YOUR racism is not even an argument. you are just totally unwilling to consider liquornspice’s points. you’d rather self-righteously troll than, i don’t know, ACTUALLY CONSIDER ANYTHING. we whites are racially privileged under white supremacist systems — THIS IS A FACT. whites like us under a white supremacist system CANNOT KNOW WHAT RACISM IS REALLY LIKE FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, and BENEFIT FROM RACISM, so we often spout garbage like yours that demonstrates our willful ignorance of the truth about racism — THIS IS ALSO A FACT. you’re being willfully ignorant and swimming in your white privilege. AND POINTING THIS OUT DOES NOT MAKE LIQUORNSPICE RACIST AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE [and in fact IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE RACIST AGAINST WHITES UNDER A WHITE SUPREMACIST SYSTEM].
and again, your using the term “color blind” the way you do is ableist appropriation.
A few days ago, I posted this picture of a facebook friend of mine who was dressed in blackface. Below are pictures of (1) the comment I then wrote under the picture (at the bottom of the first photo) and (2) the long message he sent me in response, defending his racist behavior. And for those wondering, my facebook friend is the one on the left, and the girl in the middle is in fact black (according to him, at least).
In the spirit of objectivity and me being too exhausted to explain why I think this message is full of racism, I’m going to leave it up to the reader (you) to play a little game I like to call spot the ignorance.
Let the games begin.
“Hi, I’m racist, let me tell you how I’m racist. See? I’m not racist.”
(Note: I’m going to type up the text for screenreaders in a sec but I am REBLOGGING IN A MEETING LOL)
lol. not only are they wearing racist costumes, i really don’t know of any african tribesmen wearing fake ass appropriative grass skirts.
this isn’t a meme, but this post is a two-fer. hard to pass up.
The bolding is mine and so accurate here.
Posted this picture a while back asking what this person should do about his “friend.” Here’s what happened…
Aw man, so close to a full house.
In Which “FindAlaska” Digs Deeper Into the “I’m not racist! You just don’t understand!” hole.
(This paragraph is directly in response to dagseoul and indirectly in response to velocicrafter:) …Since you’re so quick to judge me, I’m going to write out — hopefully more completely — my views on racism/white privilege. …
For the sake of clarity and civility, I’m just going to do bullet points (albeit lengthy ones):
- The specific phrase, “I hate white people,” is not acceptable to me. It is not okay
Wow, so I guess this is your attempt to whitesplain why your previous whitesplanation of how POC should be nice to white people when talking about racism wasn’t, in fact, whitesplaining.
Alas, all you’ve managed to do is whitesplain some more. You’ve made it clearer & clearer that you really don’t understand the point of the original post, nor do you understand at all what I (at least) conveyed to you. Your claim that I’m “so quick to judge” you is another absurd attempt at derailing w/the “But I’m not racist like they are!” device I linked to before. What I judged (in a calculated & rational manner, actually) was the content of your post, which was pretty clear to anyone who actually has a basic understanding of anti-racism.
“please at least listen to my opinion without immediately assuming that I am simply an ignorant white jerk, because to immediately disregard my viewpoint based on my race is unfair ”
Actually, your words demonstrated that you’re ignorant & being a jerk. Your assertion that I’m being unfair… tone argument much? You really like to try that, don’t you? Again, you’re not understanding something very basic here, despite your claims to the contrary.
“I am aware that I have white privilege. I am also aware that I will never be fully aware of that privilege.”
This is unequivocally the only thing you wrote that is relevant, sensible & the one thing you should hold onto. This is exactly why you need to quit trying to school POC on how to deal with racism & accept the schooling yourself.
“whenever I attempt to discuss race … I immediately get shot down for the primary reason that I am white.”
If what you wrote about race is any indicator of how you usually try to approach these issues, I guaran-damn-tee you that you get shot down because you’re showing your privilege, refusing to listen to POC & actually being quite racist in your attempts to ‘educate’ us (or whatever you call this thing you’re trying to do) on how to properly approach anti-racism.
“The reason, I think, that many white people are so quick to get annoyed when people say “white people do this” and “white people do that” is because it seems like you are judging us/them based on something they cannot control.”
So white people can’t control their actions?
“and you are implicating them in an action that they do not condone and do not want to be a part of, even if they are. It seems like you are trying to guilt people into feeling bad about being white. It also can feel futile to even get involved in discussions of race if you are white because people keep assuming any disagreement on your part = racism. I realize that people are usually not trying to insult or belittle or demonize all white people when they say “white people,” but it provokes a real, emotional reaction.”
See previous re: anti-racism isn’t about white people, it’s about understanding how racism negatively affects POC & how to counter these negative effects. This is not rocket surgery, but you seem more intent on making sure that we don’t accidentally hurt a white person’s fee-fees. I’ll let you in on a secret: when a POC who has any awareness & commitment to anti-racism meets a new white person, the question for us is not whether they will show that they have unresolved issues w/racism (remember, this shit is built into our society), but when they will demonstrate this. It’s not a matter of every once in a while some asshole who is white does some racist thing, if that was the case then it wouldn’t be an “-ism”, it would just be a thing where a bunch of people happen to be assholes in similar ways.
“In my opinion, and I really really believe this, racism is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard of in my entire life…”
This whole paragraph is pointless. You’re not saying anything that any anti-racist POC doesn’t already know. It’s actually kind of nauseating to read. Is this an attempt to get ally cookies? Denied. Full stop.
“My hope is that we will eventually get to the point where race is seen as nothing more than a physical characteristic…We are not at all at that point yet, primarily because of the effect of centuries of racism in the U.S. But I hope we will get there.”
See previous re: “tell us something we don’t already know”.
Also: we’re never gonna get there as long as you’re whitesplaining more than you’re listening. Don’t try again, do some listening & learning.